2008 Coshocton County
Jr. Fair Horse Show Judge FAQ's


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2008 Jr. Fair Judge Andy Bonner

Question: Do you prefer the person face the horse during backup or face forward and ask the horse  to back? How many steps or how far to back? Thanks.

Judge's Reply:  I prefer that the exhibitor turn and face their horse when backing.

Question: Is it important to you for an exhibitor to keep looking back at the judge when walking away in a showmanship class or to look straight ahead and keep a straight line?

Judge's Reply: 
A simple look back and acknowledgement is sufficient once you are dismissed and exiting your pattern

Question:  I will be showing an easy gaited horse in the trail class that does not canter ...do I use the faster gait in place of the canter/lope and how fast should it be?  And can this same animal be shown in a western showmanship class and use the slower gait for the trot?  There are no easy gaited classes at our show.

Judge's Reply: 
I will assume this is a 3 gaited horse you are asking about. In that case you will use the faster of your gaits in place of the lope and the slower of the gaits in place of the jog.  The same goes for the showmanship. Use the corresponding gaits for your breed in place of the western type horse gait.


2007 FAQs- Junior Fair Judge Tiffany Krock
 
Question: We have a young member, this will be his first year for showing.  He will be riding an aged draft horse in walk-trot classes .... can he ride with two hands or does he need to ride with one hand?  Do you have a preference on the type of bit since the animal is a draft horse and one that is accustomed to being driven?

Judge's Reply: Per 4-H rules, an aged horse must be ridden one handed in a curb bit in western classes.  A draft horse may be more suitable to being ridden english so that he may still be direct reined, as he would be with a cart. If the child has no other option but to ride 2 handed for safety issues, in western attire and tack, he must know that he will not be able to place above legal rides/tack, regardless of how well he rode.  The rider must also use a curb bit for an aged horse. 

At the walk/trot level, I would not disqualify, but would not encourage, a 2 handed ride.   I would, however, DQ  a 2 handed ride in western tack/attire for an aged horse, at any other level.  I would also explain the correct way of holding reins and what equipment is legal for that particular class.  I would encourage them to ride correctly for any other class and/or judge.   It would be a learning experience. 

Some counties have draft riding rules that allow them to ride 2 handed and in a snaffle regardless of age of draft horse. Since our rule book does not support this,  I would  need to go by the most current rules. 

Question:  Is a horse, blind in one eye, permitted to show in the Junior Fair Horse Show and if so, which classes?

Judge's Reply: I don't have any problems with a blind horse in the arena in any class as long as he is safe and sane.  There is nothing in the rules about blindness so it should be okay.  I ran it by Amber and she and I both agreed it would be fine.  I have seen a lot of blind horses show and they do great.

Question:  I am going to be showing contest this year and for that reason I want to leave my animal's mane long & flowing. Will points be takeoff in showmanship for this type of mane?

Judge's Reply: My question to you is what is the breed of horse that you will be showing and would you be in english or western showmanship?  As long as the animal is fit and groomed/trimmed correctly I don't have a problem with the long mane. However, it is still not the preferred way to show a stock horse in showmanship.   Hunter type horses should be shown in braids, but thinned manes are permitted, just  not desirable.   It must still be stain free, coat shiny, ears, bridle path, face, and legs need to be  well clipped.  Your halter must be absolutely clean  and adjusted properly, and your horse must have manners.    "A long mane and tail may be allowed according to the style that best fits the breed and individual."(rule book page 15, 3a.).   Grooming and trimming are only 20 points of your score, but 60 points are your maneuver score.  This is only my opinion and other judges may deduct points for  a long mane on a stock type horse.

Question:  In showmanship, some judges want exhibitors to look back while trotting away. Do you want the exhibitor to look back at you or should the exhibitor keep his face forward?

Judge's Reply: Once you have turned away, look back at the judge to be sure you are in line with them, then immediately start your trot. Sometimes it is helpful to pick a spot straight in front of you to keep your lines straight.  You may look back one time once you are trotting to make sure your lines are still straight, but no more than that.

Question:  In showmanship, do you want the showman to stand up straight when trotting or to lean forward?

Judge's Reply:  The showman should always look athletic and professional, not stiff or artificial.  I don't like crouching or a stick straight posture.  You need to look comfortable, natural,  and relaxed, but poised.

Question:  What is more important to you....the rail work or a perfect pattern?

Judge's ReplyBOTH, however, rail work is only worth 20 point if a pattern is used.  The pattern makes up 70 points and appointments 10 points.  Everyone seems to think the best pattern wins, but not always.  You must not sacrifice good horsemanship because your horse can do patterns.  Your heels still need to be down, good hand placement, nice line from shoulder to hip to heel, soft straight back, EYES UP AT ALL TIMES, know if you are on the wrong lead without someone on the rail telling you or looking, etc.  Rule book page 28 letter C:  "results are not more important than the form and equitation methods used to do the pattern."

Updated: August 27, 2008